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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:18 am 
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Is there some magic work or special hand shake one needs to get 1.6 rc1 to install.
The LiveSystem boots up fine but regardless of if I try to install from there or go directly to install it will just keeping asking me for what resolution I want and never install.
I've been at this for a month now with no luck.
I again trying another download form another mirror and another media, again.
Would I be better off installing 1.1 then upgrading to 1.6?
I get no errors so I don't know what to do :?:
Is ther a fix for the install bug DBSD 1.7 coming out soon :!:


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Well I guessI won't be able to install 1.6 on my system either. After a very long time looking forward to 1.6 disappointingly it wouln't even insatll, regardless of what I have tried for the last two months.
The post site is no help with no answers so I see this as a very bad sign.
I even tried the nightmare of system Solaris and it installed did not recognized my net work card, and it was a painfully process to instll, but there is at least a work around for that I haven'y yet tried but it installs and except for the network it works and it looks great.
Next try will be PCBSD, I guess it's as close to DBSD as I can get other than just a freeBSD install.
Hopefully by version 2 DBSD we will have an installable system and be ready for prime time. Still hoping. By the way is there a chance that some where along the way ufs will be changed to something more reliable?


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UFS is reliable since decades. ZFS is in work for FreeBSD7, journaling for UFS too. The latter is in my opinion something for people who don't understand the advantages and disadvantages of each other filesystem. But it's alway nice to see some development in certain areas - choice is the magical word.

After about 10 years of Linux, at the beginning with ext2, later ext3 and some tests with ReiserFS, I wouldn't exchange any of these filessystems anymore - I like UFS with softupdates, it isn't as fast as ext3, but it is far more reliable. Testing always new things is a good way to crash your machine, UFS was always very kind to me after some kernel panics ;)
Try this with some journaling filesystem again and again and you will burn every system which uses this new and shiny way to hype the filesystem-future ;)

Think of this, you have lot of filesystems in Linux and everyone with a sane mind is using ext3. Because in Linux it's the most reliable filesystem. Try ReiserFS after a crash and you'll know all about a messy filesystem. Ask some server operators, they're using ext3, because ... see above.
Linux-people migrate to *BSD ... why? Because it's far more reliable. q.e.d.

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Not being anywhere near as experienced as you may be part of the reason for my comments on UFS.
When I did have DBSD 1.0 running on my system it was a few months before problems started cropping up. Other than the obligatory driver problems, the system started crashing and hanging. After several hard reboots DBSD not only became unusable but I could not even re-install it to the hard drive. A linux install to the same hard drive however worked fine. Thinking it to be DBSD I tried PCBSD with the very same results in short order. Of course it could also be some system issue or both since I can't install 1.6 either, don't really know. In researching the issue on the web UFS kept coming up as short coming to BSD on the desktop and that's why I asked, hoping that some day I can use BSD as a primary OS on my system. On a similar note I was able to do an install of Solaris 10 with out any difficulty other than the driver thing again. I believe it uses a different file from what I gather it is ZFS already. We'll see how that works on Solaris 10.
Thanks Oliver.


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I never heard anything about UFS being not suitable for desktops. And by the way, guess what Solaris is indeed using? You would call it UFS ;)
And I'm using it on a Intel Mac mini (no boot parition but some data partitions).
I would point to the combination of chipset/driver. Solaris e.g. does not use many special things of your chipset - so less problems maybe.

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Well FreeBSD 6.2 has been out for a while now. I was under the impression DesktopBSD 1.6 would be out "right after that"

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FBSD6.2 is out since January. 1.6RC1 is out since a while, but it isn't an easy task to do a proper job, without as less bugs as possible.

If you have a look,

http://svn.desktopbsd.net/trac/timeline

there is a lot of work going on.

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Yes and the roadmap says we are closer to 2.0 then 1.6 ;)

http://svn.desktopbsd.net/trac/roadmap


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I have installed the beta and it looks very promising!

Things I like
-The installer
-The improved package packagemanager
-The overall look and feel
-The mounter mount my ext3 partions

Things I would like to see improved
-The icontheme. It's confusing at best. I think there are better icon themes out there (e.g the superb Susu theme)
-The mounter doesn't give the 'wheel' group write permission. It still isn't possible to mount to second hardisk:
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Mounting the file system failed.
Possible reasons:
- No media inserted (CD, DVD, Floppy Disk)
- The file system's type is not supported.
- The file system is corrupted.
- Partition table contains wrong data.


Overall well done! Looking forward to the final release :D.

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HXC wrote:
-The icontheme. It's confusing at best. I think there are better icon themes out there (e.g the superb Susu theme)


Do you have a link?

HXC wrote:
-The mounter doesn't give the 'wheel' group write permission. It still isn't possible to mount to second hardisk:
Code:
Mounting the file system failed.
Possible reasons:
- No media inserted (CD, DVD, Floppy Disk)
- The file system's type is not supported.
- The file system is corrupted.
- Partition table contains wrong data.


You should be able to mount with the accounts created during the initial configuration -- have you changed your group memberships or are you trying to mount from the Live CD?

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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:35 pm 
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DesktopBSD 1.6RC2 is now available.

We want to wait with the official announcement until most mirrors have catched up (probably Monday or Tuesday), but you can already obtain it here:

Via BitTorrent (please seed): ftp://ftp.desktopbsd.net/pub/DesktopBSD ... so.torrent

From these already synchronized mirrors:
ftp://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/desktopbsd ... eases/1.6/
ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/DesktopBSD/p ... eases/1.6/
ftp://jane.tihlde.org/pub/DesktopBSD/pu ... eases/1.6/

Primary changes since 1.6RC1:
  • Improved video detection
  • No more annoying package database messages when an installation/upgrade failed
  • Upgrading from 1.0 should work fine now (please test - and don't forget to backup your data!)
  • cups problems are hopefully gone
  • KDE 3.5.6
  • K3B 1.0


Another CD with KDE language packages will follow within the next few days.

Unfortunately, importing Xorg 7.2 into the FreeBSD ports tree seems to take longer than expected, so it is not included in this release and there will be at least one other release candidate using it before the final 1.6 release comes out.

Translators: Some changes required adding or modifying phrases. Please update your SVN repository for updated .ts files. (I will write another notice to the doc@ mailing list about this)

If you have any questions, objections or suggestions, please let me know.

Peter


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Did some announcement at my weblogs, so hopefully there will be more testers :)

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:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

Please discuss 1.6-RC2 here: http://desktopbsd.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1202

This thread is already quite long and I prefer having all comments about RC2 in one place.

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